Re: Existing Posted by Martin King on August 06, 1998 at 02:32:16:
In Reply to: Re: Existing posted by Rob C. Cohen on July 31, 1998 at 09:59:48:
re. a link between existing and alone.
If you really were alone, you wouldn't have a relationship with anything.
Since the primary source of all things are relationships on top of which increasing levels of objective definition are overlayed; with no relationship you could not exist.
To use Pirsig: Analysis (Objective definition) is not as Pirsig describes it an exersice in revealing 'underlying form,' but rather an exercise in creating overlying form for already existent relationships.
Or to put this another way. Which came first the chicken or the egg?
The relationship comes before the objects 'chicken' and 'egg,' and the objective term 'first.' Without this relationship you could have no 'chicken,' no 'egg,' and the objective term 'first' would be meaningless(since it would have no objects to imply). Just as the objective term island is implied by a land/sea relationship. The relationship must come first, otherwise the objective term is meaningless.
It is relationships which give meaning to objective descriptions. So no matter what objective terms you 'overlay' it is the relationships underneath which give objectivity truth;
or 'It is the connection that makes you right'?